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Sachem Rallies in Albany for Educational Aid

Administrators, teachers and board members plead their case for additional funding.

ALBANY, N.Y.-- Hundreds of Sachem teachers and administrators traveled to the New York State capital Wednesday to have their voices heard.

Rallying around massive educational aid cuts, which could hit Sachem by way of  $16 million if Gov. Andrew Cuomo's proposed budget withstands changes by the April 1 deadline, Sachem staffers lobbied, dropped off letters and spoke with state representatives at Empire State Plaza.

Classes were not in session at Sachem as teachers had a scheduled staff development day on the calendar.

"It seems like we got through to legislators," said Jon Weston, 25, an English teacher and building union representative at Sachem North. "They saw the actions they make and the actions the governor makes have drastic affects on people in their district, especially the kids in Sachem. Hopefully they will relay the message to the governor in the revised budget in the coming months." 

RELATED: See a list of interesting quotes from the Albany trip

State Sen. Lee Zeldin, R-Shirley, told district officials that the senate has proposed to restore $280 million in educational aid, compared to the $200 million the state assembly re-budgeted for in proposed plans. The assembly, however, is leaning towards retaining the millionaire's tax, which is scheduled to expire at the end of the calendar year.

Twenty five percent of the $280 million would be allotted for Long Island schools, and a small portion would be given to Sachem, said Zeldin, who, while pointing to Sachem’s fiscal responsibility, a theme teachers rallied around Wednesday, said it was “crazy” that a district so stable could be cut so much in aid.

“We don’t have an agreement on what we want to do [in the senate],” he said. “We want to restore money, but can’t get a consensus on what we want to restore. I firmly believe that state aid cuts will be less. Sachem will get less cut, but I’m not sure by how much.”

He mentioned Sachem could see another $1 or $2 million in aid, which would still leave the district well above the state average of a 7.9 percent cut.

Sachem Central Teachers Association President John Heslin prepared teachers with documents spelling out Sachem’s financial preparedness during the last few school budgets, including a five-year average budget increase of .56 percent and being recognized by the state for maintaining low administrative costs.

One document given to teachers was titled, “Sachem: The District That Did Everything Right.”

“I don’t feel people in the trenches are part of the process,” said Sachem Superintendent James Nolan, referring to the educational budgeting process at both the state and federal levels. “It’s borderline unethical when you paint with such a broad brush.”

Nolan also expressed his frustration to State Sen. John Flanagan, R-Smithtown, about two form letters he received stamped by former Gov. David Patterson, after he originally wrote to Cuomo.

That conversation quickly turned to Flanagan pointing fingers at Cuomo for the less than favorable situation Sachem is in right now.

“The governor put us in this box,” said Flanagan, who chairs the state senate education committee. “That’s been exacerbated by what’s happened over the last two years. Long Island was disproportionately hit. The governor did this on purpose. By design he’s tried to pin all of us against each other. Sachem finds itself in this position because of the governor. He feels emboldened by his proposals.”

Heslin said he's worried legislators are not focused on the children and their education. Assemblyman Steve Englebright, D-Stony Brook, the only elected official to attend the at Sachem High School East last month, was outspoken again about Cuomo.

“It’s for our kids,” he said, slamming his hand on a conference room table speaking intimately with 30 Sachem representatives. “I don’t understand what they’re thinking. It really is a stupid budget.”

“We came up because we wanted to send a message to the governor that Sachem is a district that’s doing everything that school districts should do,” said Kevin Tougher, 31, a Sachem alum teaching third grade at Cayuga Elementary School, “to budget responsibly and to provide quality education. We’re the district that gets hit the hardest and that’s not fair. That has to change.”

Notes & Quotes

  • For a recap of updates from throughout the day in Albany, check the @SachemPatch Twitter feed and follow with the hash tag #sachemtoalbany.
  • State Sen. Kenneth P. LaValle, R-C-I-Port Jefferson, was busy in a committee meeting, so teachers and administrators met with his council person Brian Murphy, who sat and fielded questions and gave back little in response. He believes there should be some mandate relief, and suggested people not buy into much of the political rhetoric that comes from Cuomo’s office.
  • Richard Iannuzzi, the president of New York State United Teachers, spoke briefly to the crowd of Sachem teachers. A former Long Island teacher himself at Central Islip for over 30 years, he sympathized with the close neighboring district. “Sachem has been there for us and we’re there for it," he said.
  • Sachem school board President Rob Scavo on the trip: “We’re here and we’re not going to stop fighting until we get our fair share. We want to protect the future education of this district. We want to continue to offer the high quality education in Sachem that it’s traditionally been known for.”
  • Teachers wore shirts that said, "this is what a laid-off teacher looks like."
Ko March 24, 2011 at 01:57 am
So this is what they do on a scheduled staff development day. Sounds like they dont need staff development days. Question. Were they on job time and being paid to travel to Albany to save their jobs? Kids could have been in school learning instead of sitting home in the middle of the week while the staff "developed".
Traci March 24, 2011 at 02:15 am
We absolutely were not paid to travel to Albany. We used our own PERSONAL days for this trip to Albany and the rest of our faculty remained in our home schools for our contracted training. Why is it that teachers are constantly questioned about doing what's right? We are fighting for the children in our district, to save taxpayer's money, and for our jobs. You wouldn't question someone doing the same if they were in the corporate world.
Bevin Llanes March 24, 2011 at 04:00 pm
There were teachers and staff at my school yesterday. Don't be jealous of teachers. If you want their perks, become one. The complaint seems to be that we pay in a lot more than we are geting back. The cuts are coming from a man who lives rent free in a mansion, with a chauffer, a maid acook, etc. Oh yeah - we pay for that! He is the last person who should complain about perks! The millionare's tax sounds good to me!
Ko March 24, 2011 at 04:05 pm
Tracy. I guess the previously scheduled STAFF DEVELOPMENT Day that apparently wasnt necessary only involved YOUR personal day. What about all the money WE, the taxpayers, had to dish out to pay for babysitters or to take OUR time off so the teachers could go protest to save THEIR jobs not to protect our kids. Staff development days are for just that STAFF DEVELOPMENT not road trips to Albany. Get rid of a few Administrators who are completely OVERPAID to save the teachers jobs. This will be a great topic for the School Board to answer just before the elections in May.
J March 24, 2011 at 04:54 pm
I love how some people are completely ignorant to fact that we're fighting for the kids. Yes all the teachers who went took a personal day and were not paid to take a "road trip". I guess Ko would much rather have the district cut all these teachers, having bigger classes and having everything else that benifits the kids cut. Staff development day is not a day where we get to lounge around and do nothing when the kids stay home. Theres training sessions, meeting and tons of paper work that needs to be done. Stop worrying about whos overpaid, and worry about the money that your children are losing out on because NYS is taking it away.
bb March 24, 2011 at 05:24 pm
I for one think that teachers, not just Sachem, are grossly OVERPAID! I have a masters degree and I don't make
anywhere near $100,000 a year and I pay 50% of my health insurance. I am a graduate of Sachem and I was totally against building East. My graduating class was well over 1,500 and we survived! Many of my classmates are doctors, nurses, etc. and are very successful. How did we manage with over 30 kids in a class!! Stop whining teachers!
PTAMom March 24, 2011 at 08:00 pm
Two of my kids are in Sachem. One has a teacher who taught when I was still in school. The other has a teacher who's only been in the district less than 5 years. BOTH of them are invaluable, with regards to what they do for our children, how they care & the way they PROVE to parents on a daily basis the importance of our childrens' educations. BUT with that said, just because a teacher has not been in the district as long as another, doesn't mean they should be laid off. All that does is teach the students, it doesn't matter how well you succeed in life, seniority rules always apply.
When was the last time a tenured teacher VOLUNTARILY changed a lesson plan, or did something different because they wanted to??? I think the "newer" teachers are more concerned with our childrens' educations than the "older" ones. They aren't concerned about where to retire. Their biggest concern should now be, maybe this wasn't the best district to raise a family. They don't care about the children or the teachers!
E March 24, 2011 at 08:35 pm
100k? That's funny because I have my masters, I am a teacher and I don't make 100k either or anywhere near 100k..I pay into my health insurance just like you do. We were fighting yesterday for your children and the quality of their education. If budgets are cut so are electives and all extra curricular activities..and its not 30 in a class, it would be more like 40. I worked very hard to be where I am today, I worked in the business world for years. I love my job and I love my students, all 275 of them that I teach, I know all of their names and about each one of them personally, I care about them like I would my own children. It's amazing that you can hate on us when for a lot of our students they see us more than their own parents. We're not whining at all, we're fighting to proect our school and the community from having to shoulder the burden because of the Govenor's negligence.
Stop hating on teachers you wouldnt be where you are today without them and you had every opportunity to be one just like us.
bb March 24, 2011 at 08:53 pm
Bring on the layoffs Mr. Cuomo, WE NEED THEM!!
Bevin Llanes March 24, 2011 at 09:26 pm
I think it is funny how the people against teachers hide their identities. If you want the "perks" teachers get, become a teacher. No, I am not a teacher or married to one. You couldn't pay me enough. The teachers today deal with much more than just teaching during the school hours. And for that matter, when do you think they grade tests, papers and come up with lesson plans? I have personally had administrators contact me well after hours to discuss problems we had in the school. And you know what, our administration is not overpaid in my opinion. I bet if they punched in and out for their work days, they would certainly log more than 40 hours!!
I want the best for my children and I think cutting the teacher's is not the best. Why don't people look over the budget LINE BY LINE and you will see other ways to save money! I agree with PTAMom that the newest teachers should not necessarily be the first ones cut though. I think it should be base on merit. That doesn't include state test scores either as not every child tests the same. I think consolidating North and East, putting in a split session and moving around the middle schools could save money. So could cutting out the vocational classes at BOCES. Why are some children getting to learn a trade instead of going on to college and don't have to pay for it? If you want their perks, be a teacher. Otherwise, don't be jealous. If you don't like your job, change it!
Ko March 24, 2011 at 09:27 pm
Ignorant no, realistic yes. You even state that on Staff Development Day there are training sessions, meetings and tons of paperwork to do.........DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ANY OF THAT HAPPENED IN ALBANY. Oh wait, naybe everybody did it on their own time on the bus on the way up there so who's ignorant?
Ko March 24, 2011 at 09:29 pm
Oh and J, looking at the grammar in your comment.........YOU ARE DEFINITELY OVERPAID!
Bevin Llanes March 24, 2011 at 09:37 pm
For the record, that date was added into the school calender so the children wouldn't lose a day of education. If you have the calendar, LOOK AT IT!! It is crystal clear!
Mom of four March 24, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Where to begin. Why do I see so many teachers responding that everyone is jealous of them? There are many people in our lives who hold important jobs, some I'm sure are people responding to these posts. We have police, firefighters, doctors, dentists, even the people who work at McDonalds are important to us! Where else would all of our schools fundraise if it weren't for our local McDonalds? Are we insinuating that anyone who isn't a teacher must be below them and therefore jealous? To E, I like to believe that I had everything to do with where I am today in my life. I believe I am in control of my actions, my thoughts, and outcomes. I also know some very educated people who home school their children...assuming by your comment those children are going to grow up to be nothing because they didn't have you to make them what they should be? An amazing level you hold yourself on. Nobody said all teachers make over $100k, but there are some who do. That is public record. There are professions where people risk their lives everyday for you, me, and all of our kids who will never touch that kind of money. We can't just ignore what people make. That statement amazed me. When taxpayer money is going towards a salary like that, we do need to worry. There are many people employed by the school system, not just teachers, and many of them grossly overpaid. @E, you see my children for the hours the state requires, not out of parental neglect or personal choice.
J March 24, 2011 at 10:32 pm
I have two masters degrees and still need a second job...overpaid? I think not. And thank you Ko for judging me based on a comment on a blog. Without teachers you wouldn't be who you are today. I'm also a Sachem graduate, and my years in Sachem are near and dear to me. I agree that there are other places we can cut indtead of teachers, but why not fight so we don't have to cut anything. Stop thinking about yourself and think what's best for you kids education. Having 30+ plus kids in a class is by no means beneficial.
Ko March 24, 2011 at 11:18 pm
J I am only thinking about the kids. School taxes go up religiously EVERY YEAR and when the budget doesnt pass they threaten that if the contingency budget(what a joke that is) doesnt pass, the first things that will be cut are programs for MY kids not teacher's pay or jobs. How many deputy superintendents or assistants to the assistant do we need. CUT their jobs. If the person hired to do a top position cant do the job find someone else that can. Thumbs up to mom of four - a real teacher like most moms
Bevin Llanes March 24, 2011 at 11:49 pm
I heard (and I don't know if it is true, but have heard from more than one person) hat the teachers are willing to take a cut and were told no by the union. Is there any truth to this?
enoughalready March 25, 2011 at 01:40 am
Tired of hearing the teachers complain...If the students in the Sachem district were getting a good education the parents wouldn't be looking for reform!! It's the teachers contract that allows for the newest teachers to be laid off first - if you don't like that - change YOUR contract! Look around you in the hallways - you know, as the kids and parents know - that there are many teachers who fail our students every day!! There are layers of "fat" that needs to be trimmed.As for those who think we're jealous of your job - get over yourself! It's exactly that attitude we need to get rid of..
Sabrina March 25, 2011 at 02:42 am
Ko you are stupid, what drives me nuts is that all the adults think about is MONEY ! AND THATS IT ! Im a student at sachem and play sports, if there wasnt any sports I would probably go home and eat, contrubuting to the already obese country, or go hang out with my friends doing useless stuff. Because of this stupid budget stuff I might be losing ALL BUT 1 OF MY TEACHERS ! and in my eyes thats not fair, I actually like my teachers if you get rid of them and make the classses bigger it would be horriable beacuse theres already alot of kids in each class, were gonna have to start sitting on top of each other !
JOSEPH CARMELLO March 25, 2011 at 06:05 am
I NEVER WORKED AT THAT DISTRICT, ACTUALLY LONGWOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING.... EVERYONE IS FORGETTING SOMETHING. OUR CHILDREN. CUTBACKS ARE NECESSARY, BUT AT WHAT PRICE!!!
I DON'T HAVE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL ANYMORE, BUT I WANT TO SEE EVERY CHILD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE BEST EDUCATION POSSIBLE. CUTTING BACK ON TEACHERS, LIBRARIANS AND ALL ALL WHO HELP AND EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN WILL ONLY HURT THEIR FUTURE. IT IS NOT THE ANSWER. THANK YOU STUDENTS. YOU ARE OUR FUTURE AND I HOPE WE DON'T LET YOU DOWN. THANK YOU.
Bevin Llanes March 25, 2011 at 10:51 am
Beautifully said.
Peggy March 25, 2011 at 12:16 pm
How ignorant can a person be!!!! Ko doesn't know what hes talking about. No I am not a teacher, but, I do work in a large district. (not Sachem) People do not realize what its like. I am the mother of five children and we need all the teachers we can get. If people are so jealous of a teachers job, then go back to school and get a teaching degree. The classes are over crowded and there's too many parents who expect the schools to raise their children. Yes, there are ways to trim the budget, but, not at the expense of losing teachers. Do people realize that our children are our future and they DO deserve the best education possible and that means keeping our teachers. Remember a teacher's day does not end when the bell rings at the end of the day. Many, Many teachers stay after and volunteer their time to help kids and then go home to grade papers, call parents and still take care of thier own families. Unless you know what your talking about, get the correct information first. I, for one will support our teachers to the fullest!!!!!
D I March 29, 2011 at 01:49 pm
Get rid of BOCES?? Some children get to learn a trade because that is what is best for them. Not all children can go on to college and not all trades are learned at college. There is a much bigger picture here for these kids. What about honors and AP classes, do you want to get rid of them too because those teachers are usually higher paid and how about the one on one aides - maybe they should go too??? Just think of it this way, by them going to BOCES it lessens up on your class size and if you need a middle class trades person you'll have one.
Yvonne March 29, 2011 at 06:21 pm
After reading all of these comments with respect to "overpaid teachers", "conference day to Albany" and who is ignorant or non-educated, it baffles me to no end. Two of my children graduated from Sachem East (a very large school, high maintenance and not a tax-payers delight). Yes, our children are important and the education process is just as important. Holding on to well educated and caring teachers and staff are a must. The key words here are well-educated and caring. There are many teachers who make well over 100,000.00 yearly. If they are well-educated, caring and have contributed to the education of our children as well as their own education, they deserve it. However there are overpaid teachers not fitting these descriptions and once they make tenure, they become laid back, taking space away from young and fresh teachers who also want to contribute the education of our children.
Continued.... Yvonne
Yvonne March 29, 2011 at 06:33 pm
There are several solutions and I have mentioned this once before. I went to a school where it incorporated vocational programs, such as nursing, dental, cosmotology, etc., usually during the 11th and 12th grades while incorporating the nescessary academic programs. There should be no reason why we should spend $50,000.00 a student to send them to BOCES when they can get it in their own district. Sachem East is large enough to make it work. Also with respect to Special Education, there are many newly graduated students who are anxiously seeking employment with dual certification. Those teachers who have worked for many moons and do not want to further their education in the Special Education area and are dwelling in their own comfort zone, should retire.
However, we still need our teachers and staff. Save money by not sending students to BOCES, incorporate a vocational program in the high school, educate the older teachers in special education and last but not least, cut only the salaries of the high paid administrators....you do not need an assistant administrator to an assistant admininstrator to the administrator. We all know who does the bulk of the work! The productivity comes from all the clericals throughout all the districts. I should know. There is a way!!!
lara buscatelli March 29, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Thank you teachers for giving my children a wonderful, well-rounded education. Thank you Sachem School Board for being so fiscally responsible. Some individuals seem to have misplaced their frustration towards teachers, who in my opinion are definitely not overpaid. You should be heading to Albany with them, and question why we get so little back from Albany in the school taxes that we pay. Why do our taxes go to irresponsible school districts, instead of receiving our proper percentage back. Why does GE barely pay taxes and Wall St. still gives out billions in bonuses after a bailout?
Stand by your middle-class neighbors and direct your frustrations where they properly belong.

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Sean June 15, 2013 at 01:56 pm
I know I am not going to convince you so I am done wasting my time so enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Jeannie Kohlmann June 16, 2013 at 10:56 am
Tell me what other district is as large as Sachem?????? No better yet tell me what district hasRead More almost 6,000 residents but less than half of them care enough to vote because they are to lazy to come out. Why because they don't think anything will happen? Or because of the i don't have a kid in the district so why should I pay attitude. Maybe you don't have a child in THIS district but you probably do in some other district or maybe a grandchild somewhere. I can't stand the fact that the CHILDREN .......mine or someone elses will suffer. For what?, being to cheap to pay an extra 500 per year. Yet you will see these same people in Starbucks or at the nail salon every 2 weeks or lets not go there and God forbid give up smoking cuz that's just so important. Before you think that I can afford to pay this 500 increase let me tell you my husband works 12 hour shifts 6 days a week and I work 40-50 hours per week as well. We have 2 grown children and 2 younger ones and we barely make ends meet. BUT I would rather take on a second or third job than see things my kids enjoy ripped from under them. ITS DISGUSTING !!!!!!! Anyone who did not take the time to come out and vote the first time or who did and voted no are disgraceful. Its about the KIDS NOT ABOUT OUR WALLETS!!!!!
JP June 17, 2013 at 10:55 am
Shameful Remarks....
Michelle Skidmore June 13, 2013 at 07:53 pm
If there is my 10 year old would love to join, we have been looking for a while!