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Live-Blogging Insiders: Romney-Obama Debate Didn't Measure Up

A group of Patch's New York political insiders disappointed by Wednesday's debate in Denver.

A panel made up of several of New York's political insiders were hoping for specifics on policy during the first presidential debate. 

The panelists who took part in a live blog on Patch during the debate were, in many cases, left disappointed. 

"So far this debate is the worst presidential debate I've ever seen...from both sides...neither candidate is resonating," said Steve Behar, a former NYC Council and State Assembly candidate and Democratic consultant, as the debate was winding down. 

Paul Feiner, the Greenburgh Town supervisor, said the debate lacked excitement. 

"Obama's performance is good but no one relates to the average voter who are not policy wonks like Bill Clinton did," said Feiner, a Democrat. "I wonder what percent of the American people who are somewhat interested in politics are paying attention to the entire debate. Bill Clinton simplified the issues–he made it easy for the average person to understand his vision."

At one point in the debate, Mitt Romney claimed that Obama's stimulus bill poured $90 million into green energy companies. “Now I like green energy as well, but that’s about 50 years of what the oil and gas industry received," the former Massachusetts governor said. 

That stirred up our panelists. 

"Come on Romney, opposed to green energy too?!" wrote Ede Fox, a Democratic candidate for the NYC Council. 

Betty Manzella, the vice-chair of the Brookhaven Town Republicans, said Romney was making a fair point. 

"Seriously?" Manzella said. "When did he say he was opposed to green energy? He said he was opposed to putting $90 billion into FAILED green energy companies."

Several panelists said they wanted to hear specifics on Romney's tax policy. 

"OK, I'll agree that middle-class people are being crushed," said Laura Morris, a Pelham Village trustee. "Will we hear anything specific from Romney on how he would fix this?"

Peter Swiderski, the Democratic mayor of the Village of Hastings-on-Hudson, said: "Romney is well-prepared. He's sounding competent and knowledgeable but is avoiding specifics on what deductions and loopholes will be covered."

On other topics, though, including health care, Swiderski said the candidates may have been too wonky for their own good. 

"I recognize that knowledgeable answers are great - but they both feel like they're overkilling it on substance and want to to show what they know," he said. 

Kevin Brady, who is running on the Working Families line for State Assembly in Nassau County, said judging the debate a draw was a win for Romney. 

"Was hoping for raucous or sharp contrast here and we got neither," Brady said. "We got this weird stasis, combined with a slowing of momentum of the D side."

How do you think the candidates did on addressing the major issues? Share your thoughts in the comments section below. 

steve reilly October 4, 2012 at 03:11 pm
Your panel was 8 Dems & 3 Republicans, of course the Dems are unhappy, they lost.
Even the Dem. talking heads on morning Joe, said it was the best since 1980.
T.K. October 4, 2012 at 04:05 pm
Ryan Bonner...What happened to media being unbiased??
You set up a lopsided blog, overloaded with Democrats. They were singing Obama's praises and stating he was winning. No that the poll are out and show Romney defeated Obama handily, you publish this nonsense about the debate being disappointing and not measuring up?? I'm not a fan of either candidate, but I'd bet my last dollar that you will be voting for Obama. You should learn to keep your obvious agenda away from your publication and report without bias. The Fourth Estate should report the news, not create and mold it to the benefit of their political choices!!
Diane Schubach October 4, 2012 at 04:08 pm
It's hard to get too specific in 2 minutes; but as far as Bill Clinton being able to relate to the average person, I think even Obama wished that Bill Clinton were there instead of him.
Diane Schubach October 4, 2012 at 04:10 pm
By the way, I wish we could "like" comments here because T.K. is right on. I've called the Patch on this before and even once got an apology.
Underdog October 4, 2012 at 04:16 pm
George, I'd be willing to bet that there's almost ALWAYS some measure of national emergency going on, our President better be able to multi-task and focus on the task immediately in front of him a lot better than was shown last night.
Besides, even with the Middle East going up in flames and rioters/terrorists overrunning our embassies and killing our ambassador Obama certainly didn't appear "lost and out of it" during his "The View" appearance.
christie nicolle October 4, 2012 at 04:59 pm
Just hearing Mitt's voice was pure joy -- we were listening to a true LEADER not a Media Invention paid by Soros bucks. When you hear Obama devotees insulting him, you know he's in trouble. Go Mitt!!
marianne krause October 4, 2012 at 05:17 pm
Sadly it dosn't matter who won the debate last night, because in the long run we as a country will lose. Neither obama or romney are worth the anything. obama was an expirement that went competly wrong and romney is just nothing but smarmy who thinks he is charming. Neither of them have a plan that will rally this country, of course like all politicians they will fill our ears with what they think we want to hear and most of us will fall for it.
Jason October 4, 2012 at 05:31 pm
Romney is the first real businessman running for office.
His passion for excellency and honest dealings as well as his intelligence, unlike bamas all preach no action style?
North Fork Bob October 4, 2012 at 05:51 pm
The 1% won this debate both parties are different sides of the same coin.That coin doesn't care about the middle class or the poor.We're in bad shape and our kids and disabled Vets are in worse shape.The kids owe a trillion dollars in student I'mloans and can't find jobs.The Iraq Vets are coming home so battered 50% of them are claiming disability.Congress wants to gut the budget of the VA by 11 billion dollars.How's that for a Thank you? For the poor they want to reduce food stamps by 90.00.I'm sure Romney will still get a 74,000.00 deduction for his horse.
Nassau Taxpayer October 4, 2012 at 05:51 pm
WHAT? You mean George W. Bush wasn't a "real businessman"?
Art October 4, 2012 at 05:58 pm
With Obama bringing up Bill Clinton in the Debate I was waiting for Romney to say, "and Mr President your no Bill Clinton".
Reality Check October 4, 2012 at 06:11 pm
If you are a woman....you need to watch what Obamacare will be doing for you....
Dr. Jill Vecchio, a Colorado Radiologist...I looked for her on Google, she heads the breast cancer section at Lutheran Hospital . This should be frightening to women everywhere!! https://www.youtube.com/embed/6e3udzHIiVs?feature=player_detailpage
JOE October 4, 2012 at 06:12 pm
Honest dealings ? Are you kidding? with all the crooked things he did at bain. What a joke . If you believe this guy with honest dealings then I got a ponzi scheme to offer to you to invest in. You will get a 25% return
JOE October 4, 2012 at 06:15 pm
passion? I think your mistaken. The only passion he has is for the almighty $$$$$$
Nassau Taxpayer October 4, 2012 at 06:32 pm
A far worse outcome by far would be Romney-Ryan raping and pillaging the middle class.
Jeffrey Dinardo Sr October 4, 2012 at 06:46 pm
Well said ! in addition, why would anyone think Obama is more experienced to lead the country ? Obama DOES NOT HAVE A RESUME..he Is not qualified....Not now, not before. Last, anyone here remember the days when a sitting President would hold news conferences with the American people from the Oval office to inform the public, or words of encouragement ........Anything.....Nothing from the guy. The Middle East is falling apart.......Our Ambassador , brutally beaten, then dragged through the streets...A Long with three other Americans. Not only hasn't this President retaliated....."He has not publicly announced / admitted it was a terrorist attack on 9-11 !! People wake up, When the main stream media is suppressing the news, We have much bigger problems.
Frank T October 4, 2012 at 06:59 pm
JOE, what were "all the crooked things he did at bain". Name one. You sound like Harry Reid. Remember Harry, he said his source told him Romney didn't file tax returns.
Nassau Taxpayer October 4, 2012 at 07:03 pm
He hasn't -- for all of his hundreds of millions in offshore tax dodge entities.
Nassau Taxpayer October 4, 2012 at 07:03 pm
...and screwing the target firm and its unit costs, i.e. "employees and retirees".
Ecar Iksar October 4, 2012 at 07:24 pm
Anyone know where Obama is golfing today?
christie nicolle October 4, 2012 at 07:34 pm
Obama sounds like sour grapes over last night's FIASCO...surely his SPIN machine will trash Mitt daily now.... + who is the Big Bird? Barry is! Love You Mitt!!
T.K. October 4, 2012 at 08:06 pm
Ryan Bonner,
Any chance you can respond to/rebut my above post?
Vincent October 4, 2012 at 08:12 pm
Nassau Democrat: Just keep paying your taxes. I appreciate it. http://washingtonexaminer.com/aarp-to-obama-dont-mention-us-again/article/2509844#.UG3sCq4XiSo
Vincent October 4, 2012 at 08:14 pm
Sorry------Nassau Democratic Taxpayer: Just keep paying your taxes. I appreciate it. http://washingtonexaminer.com/aarp-to-obama-dont-mention-us-again/article/2509844#.UG3sCq4XiSo
christie nicolle October 4, 2012 at 10:13 pm
folks, never trust the Obama machine...it is corrupt + it is BIG...big enough to win votes he doesn't deserve...just like last time. The Mayans predict 2012 to be the end of the year...well, if Obama wins, it really IS the end!!
john isernia October 4, 2012 at 11:41 pm
how many of you people remember ALI "rope a dope " strategy...against George Foreman...is President Obama getting him ready for a knockout punch....Gov.Romney better stay ready for an unexpected sucker punch.....
jsb October 5, 2012 at 01:21 am
Don't delude yourself into hoping for a hail Mary pass. The next debate has undecided voters asking the questions, not a biased moderator - trouble for Obama. The last debate is on foreign policy and will come after the congressional hearing next week on the Libya attack coverup by the Obama administration - that will be very uncomfortable for Obama especially since former Libyan Embassy workers will testify they asked for more security at the embassy in June and were denied by the Obama administration because the Obama administration was trying to sell the story that Al Qaeda was in disarray when in fact the war on terror is unfortunately very much alive - very uncomfortable explaining to be done by the president. I think Mr. Romney will be more than ready.
Maureen October 5, 2012 at 02:08 am
Too bad LI doesn't have its own electoral votes.
Nassau Taxpayer October 5, 2012 at 07:58 pm
What kind of a coward wants to kill Big Bird?
Forget politics let's get down to basics .. relegating Seamus to the roof of the family car coupled with not only wanting to kill Big Bird but Kermit, Ms. Piggy, Foo-Foo, Fraggle Rock ... and well over one thousand Muppets. Sure, we'll be told that "Bain Capital can save NPR", but in the end all the Muppets will be loaded with debt and made homeless without healthcare and forced into becoming blood-sucking victims, like the 47% No, the only answer is to save them, PBS and NPR by reelecting President Obama.
TAB October 7, 2012 at 11:34 pm
What study was she referring to in this video? There is no conclusive evidence that mammography decreases breast cancer mortality. Obamacare has serious flaws but every time an uninsured person (and there are many) uses the E.R. as a doctor's visit we the tax payer, pays for it. There has to be a way the government can supply an efficient, quality healthcare system.

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