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Police: Lake Grove Incident Not an Attempted Kidnapping

Lake Grove mother says two males attempted to grab her son off front lawn.

A Lake Grove mother says two males pulled up in a vehicle in front of her house last Friday night and jumped out and attempted to grab her son, but police say they are not investigating the incident as an attempted kidnapping. 

Police said they are on the lookout for the vehicle, but it may have been a case of the two male teens in the car "teasing" the children who were playing in the snow on the front lawn of the Virginia Avenue home.  

"We don't believe it was an attempted kidnapping by any means," a Fourth Precinct officer told Patch Tuesday, adding that the police classified the incident as a suspicious person/vehicle report. 

The mother, who asked that her name not be used, said police were not notified until Sunday "because the children where in a state of shock." 

Sachem Schools sent out a Connect Ed call Monday to parents of Samoset Middle School students and its feeder schools alerting them of the incident, which occurred near Hardwick Place. 

Below is the note the mother sent to Sachem Patch describing the incident: 

"Friday February 7, 2014 on Virginia Avenue, around 9pm at night my children’s ages 12 girl, 9 boy along with a friend 9 boy were playing in the snow on the front lawn.  A dark colored (they think black) 4 door small car pulled up slowly.  They were cautious but since they thought it was their father coming home they just stopped to look.  Instead out jumped two males (leaving the car doors open) one from the drivers seat one from the back seat one holding something small and black in his hands.  As one yelled lets get him and came on my lawn trying to grab my son my son slipped and so did the perpetrator. (as the snow marks on my lawn indicated he missed grabbing my son from about 18 inches) All the children started to scream and run back toward our door and one of the perpetrators yelled holy lets get the out of here jumped back in the car and speed off.  We have reported this incident to the police."
Bill Dymond February 12, 2014 at 08:23 AM
This whole story seems very fishy. Why would the cops not investigate this as an attempted kidnapping. Theres a reason why they are not investigating it as an attempted kidnapping. I'm sorry but I believe that this incident never really even occurred. I think the mother is honestly filing a false police report. And I think the police are thinking this too hense the reasons why they are not calling it an attempted kidnapping. One thing we should all know is the Suffolk County Police have been on their game lately at finding criminals and prosecuting them for the right crimes that they committed. Anyone remember last month them catching a Medford boyfriend and girlfriend who were responsible for 15 armed robberies over a 1 month period. Then they caught every bank robber and serial bank robber, and they caught the guy who had no criminal record and never was even arrested before on rape charges of a teenage girl in Brentwood. If this crime was committed as the mother says, then SCPD would investigate it as an attempted kidnapping. But there was not even any witnesses. I don't know about in Lake Grove neighborhoods, but in my neighborhood, if its 9pm and we hear children screaming in fear, you can bet your ass that everyone is coming out of their homes and they are going to be on this person until the cops arrive and take them into custody. And you can tell the difference between a child who is screaming in excitement and fun and a child who is screaming in fear.
SK February 12, 2014 at 09:10 AM
Bill who said there were no witnesses? Who said the neighbors did not come out?? The mother of the other child was present along with neighbors from two homes who did hear the screams of the children. I can assure you sir i am one of the mothers and it perplexes me as to why this is NOT being investigated as an attempted kidnapping so much that my husband and I have contacted the police to find out why would the "media specialist" from the SCPD would say such. In addition if i had filed a false report then i would have been arrested because that is illegal. There were three children from two different families. One child is not even from this area i can assure you Bill that this was something serious and this was not a prank because no one is laughing at any of the children's homes who encountered these men. Do you know what these children are saying at night while they are trying to fall asleep... They are crying that they can seen the mens faces and their parents are trying to comfort them. The other poor children wouldn't leave his home for two days and his parents have made a counseling appointment to help him with the stress this has caused him. again I am the mother of two of these children and if you were here on friday you would have no doubt that these men were up to no good!
Holly OBrien February 12, 2014 at 09:40 AM
My son goes to a Sachem Middle School and I did not receive any calls.
susan zigon February 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM
and if her kid and the guy didn't slip what would of happened and the fact that she should of got license plate number or called police immediately. something isn't right. last year we had over 100 car tires slashed in nneighborhoold 3am. a sleep over of 5 kids ages 13. I went to court to see if they where held reliable and one parent said to his lawyer "will my son still be able to play hockey"? give me a break I figured all the homes that were hit (I have a list) prob over ten thousand in replacing tires the kids got a nothing but a 500 fine. and no resistution for the people with the cars. keep letting them go.
Sam Beau February 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM
Yeah, the supposed "kidnapping" occurs on Friday....but isn't reported till Sunday. I know if someone attempted to kidnap my kids, I'd wait two days before reporting it...NOT! And other commenters here wonder why those who can actually read and comprehend are skeptical? Want to start a manhunt, and have the schools notify everyone that the sky is falling, when the very mother of the supposed victims can calmly wait till Sunday to even report it? Thank goodness I moved off of that Island of liberal loonies!
Sal Anthony February 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM
Dear bill i did not know that crimes do not happen in lake grove. Wow thats amazing. Maybe you are the kidnapper or know who they are maybe relatives of yours. Why so quick to debunk the claim of the children. I feel you bill are a sympathizer for pedophiles and kidnappers. You should be looked into!!! Ill be watching out for you bill!!!
Sal Anthony February 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM
Im watching you bill!!!
Sal Anthony February 12, 2014 at 03:11 PM
Dear bill a sex offender was arrested in holbrook take a look at the article. Are you going to side with him also? Im watching you bill!!!
Sal Anthony February 12, 2014 at 04:35 PM
Sam we are glad you moved off the island also. I wonder why you left the island another one defending the kidnappers. Sam are you a kidnapper on the run? Curious very curious sam.
tom h February 12, 2014 at 04:42 PM
This has got me worked up to think that some of you want to make nothing of something that was ''something'' very real to these children. why in the world would you want to be so anti community? someone is taking action to try to prevent an evil act from happening to someone else! by gathering the facts after what must have been a mess of a night after soaking in the hell and all the possible who, whats and whys they decided to take proper action and get the police involved. why not in the beginning? who knows and who is to say! the children were in fact safe thank GOD! and there would be no reason make up anything accept to be a good human being that wants others to not go through the hell that brushed up against them..
Sam Beau February 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM
Yeah, Sal and Tom, right.... even the police aren't taking it seriously, because of the fact that NO ONE whose children were truly endangered would wait 2 days before reporting it- but of course, you know better. I'd suggest that if anyone needs "protection", it is from people like that mother, who make obviously false/exaggerated claims. But I'm sure that will not stop people like yourself from using such obviously phony incidents to hype paranoia.
Sal Anthony February 12, 2014 at 11:31 PM
Sounds like sam is a pedophile and kidnapper sympathizer. Im monitoring you sam!! Im watching you!!
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 01:06 AM
Sam im watching you!
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 03:05 AM
Bill and sam want us all to believe an attempted kidnapping did not happen. I wonder why? Are they involved? Were they the 2 men? Very interesting? Be aware all of bill and sam!!! Im watching you both i know who you really are!!!
VictorFrank February 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Sal-You are a reactionary, vile, fire-starting troll. Stating that someone is "involved", a "pedophile/kidnapper sympathizer" and you are "watching them" just because they exercise some skepticism is irresponsible and shows your lack of intellect. Your posts prove that you have an agenda. Keep hiding behind your keyboard in the middle of the night. Mindless retort begins in 3...2...1...
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 11:47 AM
Victorfrank i am watching you also i have always been. Be aware victorfrank i know you. Another sympathizer for the pedophiles and kidnapper!!! Im watching you victorfrank im closer than you think!!!
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 11:49 AM
Victorfrank its not the middle of the night anymore. Im watching you midday also. Be aware be very aware. I see you victorfrank.
VictorFrank February 13, 2014 at 12:02 PM
Ha ha ha. I am aware...that you couldn't stay under that rock too long. Look in the mirror...you need to live with that ugliness, the ugliness on the inside, rotting away, negative, making you think about how the world done you wrong. You are a very cowardly little man (or woman).
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM
Victorfrank in 3... 2...1... i found you and now will expose you!!! Turn around im there!!!
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM
Im monitoring you Victorfrank!!!
VictorFrank February 13, 2014 at 12:48 PM
You were right...I was on the bowl and when I stood up turned around and you were there!!!
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 01:06 PM
Still here victorfrank be aware im watching you!!!
VictorFrank February 13, 2014 at 01:29 PM
And I still don't care what loser, bully trolls write. I am sure all of Long Island feels safe with reactionary, delusional people on the neighborhood watch. As long as you focus on me then others are free from your weak and baseless ad hominem attacks. Keep them coming.
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 01:52 PM
Victorfrank im focused on you!!!! Im watching!!! Im here!!! Look!!!
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 01:53 PM
Victorfrank turnaround!!!
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 01:54 PM
Victorfrank i see you!!
VictorFrank February 13, 2014 at 02:35 PM
An entry every minute...impressive with one free hand.
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 03:21 PM
Victorfrank open your eyes im there. I see everything!!! I know you!!
VictorFrank February 13, 2014 at 04:43 PM
You are a loser who doesn't even know yourself. Goodbye Sal the troll
Sal Anthony February 13, 2014 at 04:59 PM
Victorfrank you cant say goodbye now i didnt even say hello yet. Im still watching you. I see you. Im here. Im close now.

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