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Sachem BOE Adopts Tax Cap Budget

The Sachem Board of Education, by a vote of 7-2, adopted the 2013-14 budget that installs the tax cap levy of 3.14 percent at Wednesday's meeting.

The proposed budget is now up to the community, which will vote on June 18.

The following is a list of some of the items the new budget includes, however this list is by no means comprehensive.

1. Kindergarten is now 1/2 Day
2. All sports are fully funded
3. All music is fully funded
4. Co-curricular clubs such as cheer, Arrowettes, and Robotics are 50% funded
5. No schools will be closed

Board members Duncan and Scavo were the two dissenters. Thursday's tentative board meeting has been canceled.

colleen atwater May 30, 2013 at 04:10 PM
I agree with you Mark. Nobody has yet to answer my question of where do the people who do not have the money get it from Nobody has that answer. Only one person said the same place everybody else gets it. I asked again where is this place you are talking about and no answer. Does anybody have the answer for the person on S S making 24k a yr get it. Does anybody have an answer where does the disabled vet get it. WHere does the guy with cancer on a fixed income get it? Where does the dad who lost his job get it. Where does the single mom just getting buy to pay the rent get it. Where does the family on the brink of foreclosure get it?
Kevin McGuire May 30, 2013 at 04:19 PM
Mark - your question was about how to resolve the budget problems. A 7.49% passed budget had MOST of what the community wanted and it passed by the majority. My answer in no way says its OK for anyone to suffer - it simply says the people have spoken - and they did - but due to current law it was not good enough. A passed budget resolves so many issues. Your question asks the next set of questions - where do we go from here? Didn't claim to have those answers. Just a couple suggestions to set some things right at the state level. Any suggestions to address the root cause(s)? Love to be involved in those discussions...
Denise May 30, 2013 at 04:37 PM
To garydl11 and the rest of you kindergarten parents voting no. Remember the following year you will have 1st graders and if we have a 0% increase this year, see how much we will get from the NY State in aid next year. Remember part of the problem that caused less state aid was the fact that we have been paying lower taxes then the surrounding districts. Though the school board and everyone were happy with lower taxes now, the state thinks we don’t need the money. With NY States crazy formula for getting aid, a 0% increase will just hurt your “future 1st graders” and everyone else the following year! Please understand how the State funding works before you make a decision we will all regret.
Joseph Koerner May 30, 2013 at 04:46 PM
Where is the outrage at 75% of the real budget issues? Teachers need to give back more and continue to give back more. Sweet heart deals of the past are dooming all of us. Rarely does anyone even discuss the elephant in the room. Put constant pressure on The teachers Union and don't buy into their time tested jargon. If we all have to continuously give so should they.
Sue May 30, 2013 at 04:53 PM
Academics first. Sports and extracurricular if we have the funds. We don't. It's a "nice to have." Just asked an Admissions Director what is more important...academics or activities? He said its a no brainer....academics. So to all the parents with their little Johnny's playing JV football with no hopes of a sports scholarship or career...give it up!
Joseph Koerner May 30, 2013 at 04:59 PM
Just laughing out loud at the idea of a super majority vote being Un-American. My God what an absurd notion. Simple majority votes are absolutely un-American. what major issue in this Country is resolved with a simple majority vote? Not many! There are protections in place against simple majority votes for very good reason, lobbies, overreaching Unions, lies, bias media, voter fraud, etc... Simple Majorities for major items are a recipe for disaster.
Joseph Koerner May 30, 2013 at 05:11 PM
Sue, kids playing sports, including cheerleading is about creating well rounded individuals. The physical activity combined with the team concept is an important part of that. Obesity in our Children is a HUGE issue, one of which most are not willing to even admit. We all must admit that our kids do not get even close to the outside exercise we once all enjoyed due to a variety of factors real or perceived. Now we want to sacrifice sports?
Sue May 30, 2013 at 05:48 PM
Joseph, Why are you bringing obesity into this discussion. That is not the school's responsibility to deal with.
Ann May 30, 2013 at 06:02 PM
FROM NEWS 12'S WEBSITE: Sachem Central School District is proposing the highest tax increase of all the districts. It is hoping to get voters to agree to a 7.5 percent tax increase. I am not attacking anyone - whether you voted yes or no - I am attacking the system. We had the highest tax increase proposal in all of the districts combined - no one sees anything wrong with this? They do not care about our kids PERIOD. They care about how much of a raise they are getting!
Frank May 30, 2013 at 06:11 PM
Anne..... Please. Go back to bed.
Sarah Di Russo May 30, 2013 at 06:21 PM
I have a serious problem supporting a budget that cuts ANY academic program to allow Extra-curricular activities to remain. Although these programs are valuable, they are NOT the function of a public school if academics are sacrificed. As for children let loose with nothing to do - I blame that on the parent not the child.
garydl11 May 30, 2013 at 06:46 PM
Lol..... Joe if obesity is a huge problem(which it is) sports have not been working. How about cutting sports and adding more health classes to teach kids about making right decisions regarding food and exercise...lmfao.... Went with obesity angle
garydl11 May 30, 2013 at 06:53 PM
Denise it's time to make tough decisions and apparently this board is not up to the task. I will sacrifice a little until people wake up. Close some schools cut fat cat administrators, etc. don't skimp on the education. Times are tough and it's time to consolidate our resources not keep schools open we don't need and wasting money to maintain them.
Frank May 30, 2013 at 06:56 PM
Lol. Yea the obesity angle was pretty funny. Good point Gary.
Stephen 5632 May 30, 2013 at 06:57 PM
Hey Tom, the so called short sighted senior citizens are a growing population on LI. You were doing ok until you called out the seniors. Now who's being short sighted?
Joseph Koerner May 30, 2013 at 07:05 PM
Gary, your proposing a class as opposed to actual exercise to fight obesity?? really??? Sports and all extra curricula activities have a place in our schools and shouldn't be sacrificed due to the real issue... teachers pensions, benefits, and salaries. The problem is they have you all bamboozled. your choosing between academics and extra curriculas instead of addressing the real issue. it's not even a whisper on this board. that's scary...
Phil Colacioppo May 30, 2013 at 07:07 PM
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garydl11 May 30, 2013 at 07:34 PM
Joe Your saying that sports in school will prevent obesity. I'm saying sports in school has been around for decades and has not put a dent in the obesity problem. I'm saying obesity needs to be tackled another way. I think it's funny this is even a discussion right now. What you said in your last post was right on. There are bigger issues that are not being addressed. I think that the bigger issues that you refer to is really what the BOE is worried about and it's not about the kids. So the BOE goes with fully funded sports cause that's how they get a passed budget and keep their fat benefits that they will not even slightly adjust to help. It's about the kids right?
Joseph Koerner May 30, 2013 at 07:50 PM
I am saying that all extra curricula activities, sports included help create well rounded individuals. PE is in place to help provide exercise for our children, so I am not sure why connecting sports with obesity was such an oddity. The bigger issue is what nobody is willing to address. The Teachers Union and administration have everyone by their short hairs and so beaten down that we talk about sacrificing everything and God forbid the discussion turns to them.
garydl11 May 30, 2013 at 08:32 PM
No arguments here joe about what needs to be done and is not. I think it's funny how some of sports were getting cut if first budget didn't pass and all of a sudden it's fully funded and kindergarten is cut to 1/2 day. It was to get the yes votes. Wake up and smell the coffee. Sports is back to fully funded so budget is passed and benefits and salaries are maintained. This is not about the kids and never was. It's about the wallets of the administration. So do the right thing vote no and force them to make real decisions. Enough of the state will not do this or that if we get zero. We need to straighten things out do we are not seriously effected by states decisions regarding aide. Time to take a couple go steps backwards maybe to make some real progress.
Ann May 30, 2013 at 09:11 PM
@Frank - wow, nice come back. Couldn't think of anything better?
Ann May 30, 2013 at 09:12 PM
and frank - be mature on this board or leave - thanks!
Stephen 5632 May 30, 2013 at 09:49 PM
obesity? lmfao, all the sports that are in schools now has not stopped obesity. Good home cooked meals and not sitting on computers all day will stop obesity. Not driving your kid to every function, party or whatever will stop obesity. I remember as a kid in my teens eating whatever and as much and not being fat. Why Moms good meals and I rode my bike everywhere. Today well everyone knows why?
Stephen 5632 May 30, 2013 at 09:54 PM
I think its time to vote NO and fight the system. Pain now for some but all will win in the end. Me and my senior friends now know what ( to some short sighted) thing to do. Thanks to all for your insight.
Denise May 31, 2013 at 08:21 AM
OK everyone who wants to start helping our students fundraise. Tonight is Broadway night at East, 7:00. This is the Drama clubs main fundraiser and will help them be able to afford to put on their great plays and musicals next year. They sing show tunes and have a Chinese auction. Come for a wonderful night and help these students that will lose 50% of their funding
lj martin May 31, 2013 at 01:44 PM
I think its time to talk about another elephant in the room, that would be teachers on the board deciding on teachers contracts. How is that allowed? Its like the workers giving themselves a raise. They dont teach in the district they help govern you say. Its called contract leapfrogging, a union tactic succesfully used by local police departments for the past forty years or so and the teachers union as well.
Val Arrieta June 03, 2013 at 10:01 PM
I'm a 6th Grader at Sagamore Middle School and all of you wanting to vote NO because of half day kindergarden, read this. I know people who are from the state of Indiana where they have half day kindergarten and they are incredibly smart. Also by including sports and music they will get into a better college with extracurriculars. This only affects one year of their lives and kindergarten isn't even necessary by state law, as least they kept it in the first place. If you complain and vote no, you will be affecting more kids. This is not just for the wallets of the administration because coming from a kid this will GREATLY affect me. So please think before you vote no. Also do not complain to me that I'm too young to get this because I am not only a straight A student but I have been to a board meeting and I know what is going on. PLEASE vote yes. I will be greatly in your debt if you do. Thank you.
Val Arrieta June 03, 2013 at 10:01 PM
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Val Arrieta June 03, 2013 at 10:07 PM
None of the kids in my grade are obese. Everyone at least does one sport or they're fit. Only very few kids in our grade are obese and believe it or not sports do help. Now please do tell me where did you get the info that many kids are obese in Sachem? I go to school with them and few kids are obese, I can also definitely tell you that without sports kids will definitely get more obese. But most kids are fit in our school, still kids may not be as fit as they were back then but they are healthy. Many kids also still ride their bikes everywhere Stephen.
Stephen 5632 June 04, 2013 at 07:46 AM
Val, maybe some but far from many. I do live,drive and bike around Holbrook area and do not see many. If kids have to go anywhere most are driven.

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